I actually got into a huge fight with the Cloudflare head of security on Twitter some years back. I discovered a site selling stolen credit card numbers being protected by Cloudflare, and so I reported it to Cloudflare’s security and abuse department.
That’s why I refuse to use Cloudflare, even though I have a problem with DDoS attacks. Cloudflare is the living embodiment of the socially irresponsible dudepro Libertarian tech-bro “we deserve to make money and any idea that we should be accountable for our actions is not only wrong but immoral and an infringement of our HUMAN RIGHTS.”
Cloudflare doesn’t care about the content of the site. Unless they receive a court order telling them not to, they will protect absolutely any site with absolutely any content. For years, they protected Rescator dot cc, an infamous Russian [EDIT: Ukranian] site selling stolen credit card information.
Hi everybody! I have been looking at posts on narcs and narc abuse on here and if has really helped me out a lot. I am currently struggling with my situation and need some advice/support.
I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized.
he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that.
he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened.
he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence.
i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me
i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction.
after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly.
things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it.
we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe …
our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far?
this has upset me so much its hard to even function.
When Cloudflare did nothing about it, I went on Twitter and was like “Hey Cloudflare, did you know you’re hosting a criminal site selling stolen credit cards” I got a reply from a person who was (according to his Linkedin profile) the Cloudflare chief of security, basically saying (paraphrased) “Cloudflare is a content distributor and we are not responsible for the content of any sites we protect. If you feel a law is being broken, contact your local law enforcement.”
So yeah, Cloudflare protects any site. Blackhat, white hat, drug sites, child porn, anything goes. They don’t care.
He replied with a rather tart (again, paraphrasing) “If you see a child porn site, contact the FBI. If you don’t have a court order, don’t talk to us, it’s not our problem,” followed by…
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When I hear the word “Libertarian,” I think Cloudflare. “If you think we’re serving child porn, contact the FBI. If you don’t have a court order we don’t want to hear about it” is pretty much the living, breathing soul of Libertarian morality. They are the embodiment of Libertarian ideals and all that Libertarians stand for.
The Cloudflare founders, Matthew Prince and Lee Holloway, are super-duper-ultra-mega hardcore Ayn-Rand-worshipping extreme big-L Libertarian dudebros. They believe in absolute free speech, and when I say absolute, I mean absolute. Child pornography? Revenge porn? Illegal drug stores? Carder sites? Isis recruitment sites? They are the sort of Libertarians who believe that all speech with absolutely no restrictions under any circumstances whatsoever should always be permitted.
Yes. Cloudflare also protects actively criminal sites from DDoS attacks. In fact, Cloudflare will protect any site—drug sites, carder sites, even (according to a Cloudflare tech on Twitter before Cloudflare blocked me) child pornography sites.
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So I sad “does that mean if I told you that you were protecting a child porn site, you wouldn’t do anything?”
